<DIV>Voila ce qu'on appelle un bad beat un peu dégouté, mais bon c'est le jeu ...</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>POKERSTARS GAME #15397328884: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/19 - 11:53:10 (ET)<BR>Table 'Echion' 6-max Seat #4 is the button<BR>Seat 1: Frillen ($86.70 in chips) <BR>Seat 3: ultimateboy ($50 in chips) <BR>Seat 4: AlbanyAces ($75.75 in chips) <BR>Seat 5: Juicy38 ($76.35 in chips) <BR>Seat 6: uNGam3R ($54.75 in chips) <BR>Juicy38: posts small blind $0.25<BR>uNGam3R: posts big blind $0.50<BR>*** HOLE CARDS ***<BR>Dealt to uNGam3R <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-04.gif" border=0> <BR>Frillen: folds <BR>powDR.J. joins the table at seat #2 <BR>ultimateboy: raises $1.50 to $2<BR>AlbanyAces: calls $2<BR>Juicy38: folds <BR>uNGam3R: calls $1.50</DIV><DIV><BR>*** FLOP *** </DIV><DIV><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-02.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-07.gif" border=0> <BR>uNGam3R: checks <BR>ultimateboy: bets $4<BR>AlbanyAces: folds <BR>uNGam3R: raises $5 to $9<STRONG> <EM><- Standart</EM></STRONG><BR>ultimateboy: raises $39 to $48 and is all-in <EM><STRONG><- Classiquement mal joué ... On le met tout dessuite sur une over pair</STRONG></EM><BR>uNGam3R: calls $39 <STRONG><EM><- Evidement, seul un jeu le battant vas callé.</EM></STRONG></DIV><DIV><STRONG><EM></EM></STRONG><BR>*** TURN *** </DIV><DIV><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-02.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-07.gif" border=0> <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-09.gif" border=0> </DIV><DIV><BR>*** RIVER *** </DIV><DIV><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-02.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-07.gif" border=0> <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-09.gif" border=0> <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-08.gif" border=0> </DIV><DIV><BR>*** SHOW DOWN ***<BR>uNGam3R: shows <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-04.gif" border=0> (three of a kind, Fours)<BR>ultimateboy: shows <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-14.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-14.gif" border=0> (a flush, Ace high)<BR>ultimateboy collected $100.25 from pot<BR>*** SUMMARY ***<BR>Total pot $102.25 | Rake $2 <BR>Board [2d 4s 7s 9s 8s]<BR>Seat 1: Frillen folded before Flop (didn't bet)<BR>Seat 3: ultimateboy showed [As Ah] and won ($100.25) with a flush, Ace high<BR>Seat 4: AlbanyAces (button) folded on the Flop<BR>Seat 5: Juicy38 (small blind) folded before Flop<BR>Seat 6: uNGam3R (big blind) showed [4h 4d] and lost with three of a kind, Fours<BR></DIV><DIV></DIV>

<DIV>Tien, sa me fait me rendre compte que j'ai jamais eu de chance avec mes brelan de 4 ... lol la preuve :</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>POKERSTARS GAME #15298334305: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/15 - 11:20:13 (ET)<BR>Table 'Justitia V' 6-max Seat #3 is the button<BR>Seat 1: FLAVIEN 75 ($48.65 in chips) <BR>Seat 2: Drakon83 ($49.25 in chips) <BR>Seat 3: Hollandkezza ($48.25 in chips) <BR>Seat 4: uNGam3R ($69.05 in chips) <BR>Seat 5: DBL_J_22 ($51.60 in chips) <BR>Seat 6: spolhi ($50 in chips) <BR>uNGam3R: posts small blind $0.25<BR>DBL_J_22: posts big blind $0.50<BR>*** HOLE CARDS ***<BR>Dealt to uNGam3R <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-04.gif" border=0> <BR>spolhi: folds <BR>FLAVIEN 75: calls $0.50<BR>Drakon83: folds <BR>Hollandkezza: raises $2 to $2.50<BR>uNGam3R: calls $2.25<BR>DBL_J_22: folds <BR>FLAVIEN 75: folds </DIV><DIV><BR>*** FLOP *** </DIV><DIV><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-08.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-12.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card2-04.gif" border=0> <BR>uNGam3R: checks <BR>FLAVIEN 75 leaves the table<BR>Hollandkezza: bets $3.50<BR>uNGam3R: raises $4.50 to $8 <STRONG><EM><- Standart.</EM></STRONG><BR>Slottinho joins the table at seat #1 <BR>Hollandkezza: calls $4.50</DIV><DIV><BR>*** TURN ***</DIV><DIV><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-08.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-12.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card2-04.gif" border=0> <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-09.gif" border=0> <BR>uNGam3R: bets $15.50 <EM><STRONG><- A part J10 qui aurait pris gutshot ou over set, rien me bat</STRONG></EM> <STRONG><EM>donc standart encore<BR></EM></STRONG>Hollandkezza: raises $22.25 to $37.75 and is all-in<BR>uNGam3R: calls $22.25 <STRONG><EM><- Easy call anyway</EM></STRONG></DIV><DIV><STRONG><EM></EM></STRONG><BR>*** RIVER *** </DIV><DIV><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-08.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-12.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card2-04.gif" border=0> <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-09.gif" border=0> <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-11.gif" border=0> <BR>*** SHOW DOWN ***<BR>uNGam3R: shows <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-04.gif" border=0> (three of a kind, Fours)<BR>Hollandkezza: shows <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card2-11.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-11.gif" border=0> (three of a kind, Jacks) <STRONG><EM><- Super bien joué évidement ... lol</EM></STRONG><BR>Hollandkezza collected $94.50 from pot<BR>*** SUMMARY ***<BR>Total pot $97.50 | Rake $3 <BR>Board [8h Qd 4c 9h Js]<BR>Seat 1: FLAVIEN 75 folded before Flop<BR>Seat 2: Drakon83 folded before Flop (didn't bet)<BR>Seat 3: Hollandkezza (button) showed [Jc Jh] and won ($94.50) with three of a kind, Jacks<BR>Seat 4: uNGam3R (small blind) showed [4d 4h] and lost with three of a kind, Fours<BR>Seat 5: DBL_J_22 (big blind) folded before Flop<BR>Seat 6: spolhi folded before Flop (didn't bet)<BR></DIV>

<DIV>Allé je suis d'humeur, une petite derniere incompréhensible ... lol</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>POKERSTARS GAME #15215340891: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/11 - 14:33:10 (ET)<BR>Table 'Kevola' 6-max Seat #6 is the button<BR>Seat 1: SCLARK0228 ($43.85 in chips) <BR>Seat 2: Fuller22 ($56.10 in chips) <BR>Seat 3: echo87 ($98.75 in chips) <BR>Seat 5: uNGam3R ($70.85 in chips) <BR>Seat 6: ATTL ($29.15 in chips) <BR>SCLARK0228: posts small blind $0.25<BR>Fuller22: posts big blind $0.50<BR>bjar-44: sits out <BR>*** HOLE CARDS ***<BR>Dealt to uNGam3R <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card2-04.gif" border=0> <BR>echo87: folds <BR>uNGam3R: raises $1.50 to $2<BR>ATTL: folds <BR>SCLARK0228: folds <BR>Fuller22: raises $1.50 to $3.50 <EM><- <STRONG>3BET Stupid</STRONG> (appellons le : 3BET NONO)</EM><BR>uNGam3R: calls $1.50</DIV><DIV><BR>*** FLOP *** </DIV><DIV><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-08.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card2-02.gif" border=0> <BR>Fuller22: bets $2 <STRONG><EM><- Show weakness</EM></STRONG><BR>uNGam3R: raises $4 to $6 <EM><STRONG><- Standart</STRONG></EM><BR>Fuller22: calls $4</DIV><DIV><BR>*** TURN *** </DIV><DIV><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-08.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card2-02.gif" border=0> <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-09.gif" border=0> <BR>Fuller22: bets $5 <STRONG><EM><- ???</EM></STRONG><BR>uNGam3R: raises $8 to $13 <STRONG><EM><- Toujours standart.</EM></STRONG><BR>Fuller22: calls $8</DIV><DIV><BR>*** RIVER *** </DIV><DIV><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-08.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card2-02.gif" border=0> <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card4-09.gif" border=0> <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card2-07.gif" border=0> <BR>Fuller22: bets $12 <STRONG><EM><- ???!!!<BR></EM></STRONG>uNGam3R: raises $18 to $30 <STRONG><EM><- Standart lol</EM></STRONG><BR>Fuller22: raises $3.60 to $33.60 and is all-in<BR>uNGam3R: calls $3.60</DIV><DIV><BR>*** SHOW DOWN ***<BR>Fuller22: shows <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card1-12.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-11.gif" border=0> (high card Queen) <STRONG><EM><- Je crois qu'il devait etre bourré. En 1 mot : MERCI</EM></STRONG><BR>uNGam3R: shows <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card3-04.gif" border=0><IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/_...s/card2-04.gif" border=0> (three of a kind, Fours)<BR>uNGam3R collected $110.45 from pot<BR>*** SUMMARY ***<BR>Total pot $112.45 | Rake $2 <BR>Board [4s 8s 2c 9h 7c]<BR>Seat 1: SCLARK0228 (small blind) folded before Flop<BR>Seat 2: Fuller22 (big blind) showed [Qs Jd] and lost with high card Queen<BR>Seat 3: echo87 folded before Flop (didn't bet)<BR>Seat 5: uNGam3R showed [4d 4c] and won ($110.45) with three of a kind, Fours<BR>Seat 6: ATTL (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)</DIV>

<DIV>44 special</DIV>

<DIV>ma préféré sa reste quand meme la derniere <IMG src="www.bordeauxpoker.com/richedit/smileys/Love/3.gif" border=0> Incompréhensible, mais si plaisante </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>PS : En fait je crois que c'était néfane qui se caché derriere le mec et qu'il se voyait avec la quinte floppé ... (ou peu etre qu'il a cru qu'il avait J10 lol)</DIV>

<DIV>c vrai que la derniere est belle , par contre je suis pas completement daccord avec toi sur la 1ere sur ta déduction qd tu dit il a forcément une over paire avec ses AA , ce move ( mauvais de toute maniere ) est plutot caractéristique d'un fort tirage couleur que d'une over paire a mon avis mais sa change pa grand chose</DIV>

cyril écrit:
<DIV> </DIV><DIV>Oué, c'est possible aussi mais c'est moins fréquent. A cette limite, sur les tables que je joue (gros pot, nombre important de joueur parflop), c'est pas habituel qu'un mec parte a tapis a tirage en semi bluff, généralement c'est plutot les jeux fort qui font sa (over paire)</DIV>